Here is a great debate (and is the great debate!) on the existence of god. John Lennox (taking the side of theism) versus Michael Shermer (taking the side of atheism) is in my opinion one of the better god debates that I have seen. It is very even handed, both debaters are cordial and polite, they are clear and concise, and most of all there is a great sense of humor with all of the people involved. The debate is serious but everyone keeps it lighthearted enough for the audience to not go nuts.
The debate is broken up into ten parts and it runs about an hour and a half. If you are interested in the god debate, then I suggest you get yourself some popcorn and park it right here.
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PART ONE
PART TWO
PART THREE
PART FOUR
PART FIVE
PART SIX
PART SEVEN
PART EIGHT
PART NINE
PART TEN
Hi Dave, I recently watched this debate (behind the times, I know), and was impressed with the balance and clarity of your review.
ReplyDeleteCompared with a few other reviews I've read (Thus far, I've only seen atheist reviewers pouring vitriol on Lennox, but I have no doubt that the religious wing nuts are out there condemning Shermer with glee), I found yours to be short, but enjoyable.
While I found the arguments Lennox put forward to be less compelling than other debaters such as William Lane Craig, I thought the interaction between the two debaters was enlightening, educational, and showed a respect for intellectual development over dogmatic defence.
I'd also like to say that compared to many of the other atheist proponents I have read/viewed/listened to over the last few years, Shermer rates as the best and most engaging in my view. He far surpasses Dawkins, Hitchens, Zindler, Harris and Dennet, to name a few.
I say this because he was polite, funny, and invited his opponent to discuss matters he disagreed with, rather than declare his opponents argument a 'non-argument'.
If this is how you present a debate of this calibre, then I am going to have to read more of your work.
Regards,
TB.
Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
ReplyDeletePatmos Pete,
ReplyDeleteYou should check out this new post, it's all for you.
http://skepticdave.blogspot.com/2010/07/lets-try-this.html
Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
ReplyDeleteI think the only person who has been drinking is you. But I can't say much, I just enjoyed a pint of Smithwick's. :)
ReplyDeleteCheers!
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The third message from heaven...
ReplyDeleteIf any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Yeah, so, and what? I worshiped the Beast this morning, and I didn't receive a mark on my forehead or hand. I think I got screwed. Live your life in fear, if you so choose. That's fine with me. How has that been working out for you, by the way? If it works, stick with it so long as you aren't hurting anyone else.
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